zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Hello Fabio, Have you got any tutorial on how to make a threadripper 3970x with proxmox ? Is it better than using the OpenCore way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 12, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, zydlar said: Hello Fabio, Have you got any tutorial on how to make a threadripper 3970x with proxmox ? Is it better than using the OpenCore way ? If. you read in this site you will find all it depends but now I am using bare metal and not virtualisation way Proxmox needs also of a boot loader (don't trust some woman on you tube) check here and here Edited November 12, 2021 by fabiosun links added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 well you pointed exactly where I was begining to doubt. I know who you are speaking off and I was wondering if all this "hatred" she spoke off was not her hatred. So you advise me to build with the vanilla opencore ? Is this the bare metal you mentionned ? I would love to create an audio worstation with this CPU and 256 Go of Ram. You recommend me to use the dortania instructions ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 12, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 12, 2021 First of all check if softwares you use are working well on AMD OSX Then you can choice your hardware CPU is a monster If your preferred softwares work in vanilla mode (bare metal), I think is a better and "simple" solution Proxmox is valid, but it has some limit and it is more complex than a "vanilla" build and NO (I do not recommend Dortania instructions) for threadrippers I advice you to follow in this site all users experiences 😉 It is the best resource you can find over the net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Thank you very much for your quick answers. I have only used clover for an intel hackintosh some years ago. I'm a newbie to all of this, so I really appreciate the help you provide. I'm going to check the AMD OSX softwares that I actually use. 'The woman' you tell me not to trust has made work lots of software with the the same monster, but I guess it was because of Virtualization. That's why I was wondering what "way" to choose. So now I'm checking if the apps work on vanilla mode with AMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 12, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 12, 2021 ask to the girl if thunderbolt works in "her" ways 🙂 often she does not answer if the question could create problems to her gain 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 12, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 12, 2021 @zydlarcheck also in our YouTube channel some Proxmox video https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN_fzD5ZSF8W3kaVWLUd5Aw/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 =D I can ask yeah that could be funny to see the answer 😃 why did you switch from proxmox to vanilla ? Which instructions have you followed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 12, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 12, 2021 All apps I use working in a perfect way in vanilla Performances is pretty similar (better in vanilla) Only a system to configure (no host system) Proxmox is perfect If you need multiple VM working in the same time For other tasks (if the app you use work, vanilla is the way For both you need to use a bootloader, in Proxmox with only one Kernel patch..but today also Vanilla has a limited set of kernel patches to use and updating from a release to another of OSX is a joy! 🙂 For the instructions... from Proxmox to vanilla was very simple to have it working If you check in thread discussion you will find many EFI for different motherboard in my opinion MSI board are the more simple to configure in a complete way (ie also with a perfect sleep/wake cycle ) The Gigabyte trx40 Designare for its Thunderbolt integration (you have to use a flashed Titan Ridge card and a ssdt) and so on 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 wow thanks ! So the woman told bullshits on updating difficulties. So then can I use Timemachine on my last hackintosh, copy the datas etc... create a new hackintosh with threadripper vanilla method with highsierra installed, and then use the time machine recover from my last hackintosh and bring it to the new one and then update very easily to big sure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Thank you, after looking for what I need, it seems I'm obliged to go with virtualization. Some plugins don't work with AMD vanilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 12, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, zydlar said: wow thanks ! So the woman told bullshits on updating difficulties. So then can I use Timemachine on my last hackintosh, copy the datas etc... create a new hackintosh with threadripper vanilla method with highsierra installed, and then use the time machine recover from my last hackintosh and bring it to the new one and then update very easily to big sure ? not all Bulls*it some of them to create hype on her method My proxmox guide was born because I was disappointed of her telenovelas video without saying nothing but She did a good job and a lot of money with her patreonum For us Hackintosh is freedom 🙂 Now I am using Monterey and from Big Sur 11.4 you can use fastest Gpu available on OSX Choose well your component and you will happy I advice to use a minimal of Big Sur OS for thread ripper In high Sierra some problem with Usb and also with Nvidia web driver (no usb 3 available and some time a difficult installation for Web Driver) All solvable but a monster needs of new OS 🙂 1 minute ago, zydlar said: Thank you, after looking for what I need, it seems I'm obliged to go with virtualization. Some plugins don't work with AMD vanilla. let we know what plugin and in which software @tomnicis applying a "simple" patching method, and we have wth a little effort many not AMD Compliant apps working 🙂 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 thank you ! I'm gonna follow your guide with proxmox. And have patience because when something is new, it's always a bit messy in my head 😃 I need to find someone who runs some plug ins that don't work with Vanilla that works with proxmox. Someone told me that datas can be recover in big sure from high sierra. and it sills work (don't want to reinstall everything again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, fabiosun said: let we know what plugin and in which software @tomnicis applying a "simple" patching method, and we have wth a little effort many not AMD Compliant apps working 🙂 🙂 I haven't seen that part. Many says that Waves plug ins don't work with AMD. with vanilla method. So here was the topic I saw. So is this true that the virtualization method will make everything work as it was a real mac ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 12, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 12, 2021 I cant say for all statements said there but, Davinci Resolve does not need any patching from months 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 12, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, zydlar said: I haven't seen that part. Many says that Waves plug ins don't work with AMD. with vanilla method. So here was the topic I saw. So is this true that the virtualization method will make everything work as it was a real mac ? I have installed it (a trial version) I am not able to use it but I am not a musician guy 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zydlar Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Thanks for the screenshots. I understand you are not a musician and can't have naturally these informations as you don't use your computer for that. do you know if there are any users here doing music with their hackintosh ? That would be awesome to see if they manage to run their plug ins WITH AMD CPU ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators tomnic Posted November 13, 2021 Moderators Share Posted November 13, 2021 12 hours ago, zydlar said: Thanks for the screenshots. I understand you are not a musician and can't have naturally these informations as you don't use your computer for that. do you know if there are any users here doing music with their hackintosh ? That would be awesome to see if they manage to run their plug ins WITH AMD CPU ? Waves needs minor patching to make it work with bare metal AMD cpus in macOS, I'll post the patches as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 wow that would make so many musicians take the AMD CPUs with vanilla mode. Thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, fabiosun said: If you check in thread discussion you will find many EFI for different motherboard in my opinion MSI board are the more simple to configure in a complete way (ie also with a perfect sleep/wake cycle ) The Gigabyte trx40 Designare for its Thunderbolt integration (you have to use a flashed Titan Ridge card and a ssdt) and so on 😉 So if I just buy the same components as you and boot with the files you provide in the TRX40 Bare Metal thread, that will work instantly ? Is there any tutorial/guide for beginner like me ? I followed one of the threads you provide me on bare metal installation but I found more explorations stuff than a guideline. Sorry for asking a lot Edited November 13, 2021 by zydlar adding question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 13, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, zydlar said: So if I just buy the same components as you and boot with the files you provide in the TRX40 Bare Metal thread, that will work instantly ? Is there any tutorial/guide for beginner like me ? I followed one of the threads you provide me on bare metal installation but I found more explorations stuff than a guideline. Sorry for asking a lot If you have zero experiences and no time to read, is better to do an intel Hackintosh or a real Mac 🙂 joking I cant say for you You have to do freely this decision, so if you do wrong...only you could be guilty for this 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 yeah I relieve you of feeling responsible for anything I will decide. And yes ofc I'm reading and taking a lot of time to do researches. I was just wondering if the files you provide will make a machine work with same components, and following this guide : https://github.com/AMD-OSX/AMD_Vanilla that's all =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervisor fabiosun Posted November 13, 2021 Supervisor Share Posted November 13, 2021 that site is the home of AMD patches Here is the home of TRX40 using OSX 🙂 Here you can find bios configurationn and EFI but it is an Hack 😉 so a minimal effort must be done However you will find help when you will build a trx40 monster machine No guaranteed for audio stuff because I do not use Yesterday I have installed for you a trial to see if problem was there pro tools work fine Waves needs some patching to do many apps have the same library to patch and so if you find them in audio apps it will be possible to use it in AMD hack like we do with Adobe Suite or Maya software or others with Intel should be more simple...less funny and less power I would choice an AMD and then if vanilla is a problem you have also virtualisation Choice but no one could assure you for sure 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydlar Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 I thank you for all you have given not only for me but also for everyone else here. I wanted also to thank you for the help you provide and I thank you a lot also for trying an app for me. That's very kind. I apologize for not having saying it earlier. I was having headaches yesterday. Thanks for your support ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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